tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6883415296937284014.post8812861048151525780..comments2024-01-08T02:16:57.647-08:00Comments on Religion, Sets, and Politics: An ethical question from my trip to IsraelJoshuahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00637936588223855248noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6883415296937284014.post-72616207482309198362008-07-16T11:38:00.000-07:002008-07-16T11:38:00.000-07:00Oho! Now I'm interested. naftali, would you equal...Oho! Now I'm interested. naftali, would you equally say of Muslim women who walk in public spaces without head coverings that they're guilty of sexual harassment (or, if you prefer, religious harassment)? How about the revealing of a piano's legs (yes, this was considered an inappropriate sexual state at one point in history)? I don't think that feelings of discomfort and of sexuality are sufficient to establish harassment - people can misinterpret and get offended by any act. Are these people getting special treatment because of their religion (or because they have religion)? Because you think so-called "modesty laws" are morally appropriate? Is it, as treehouses suggests, the intentions of the women? In other words, what's the other contributing factor to this besides their mere feelings?Elihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03543293341085230171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6883415296937284014.post-45834416262546093112008-06-19T14:00:00.000-07:002008-06-19T14:00:00.000-07:00The protest is unethical if it is done purposefull...The protest is unethical if it is done purposefully to hurt the other party's feelings. In that case, it is not even a protest, it's bullying. If your friends were honestly standing up for themselves, then the charedi dancing is fair game for protest. The protest may be seen as a rude interruption, but that's just how protests work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6883415296937284014.post-62740060713671888012008-06-19T11:56:00.000-07:002008-06-19T11:56:00.000-07:00It's not like Rosa parks and not discriminatory. T...It's not like Rosa parks and not discriminatory. They could dance in a different but equally attractive location, as opposed to Rosa parks who had to sit in a less attractive location. <BR/>They were sexually harassing the Chareidim, no question about it. the Chareidim considered it a sexual act, and were made uncomfortable by it. <BR/>I think this isn't much of a question; if you remove bias (such as: men are the only ones who sexually harass; modesty laws were created to degrade women, rather than to separate BOTH sexes, and possibly protect women [though the concept of women needing protection isn't too popular among the feminists]; and the fact that the perpetrators were your friends) it's an open-and-shut case.Krul_Kradlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963963119929031597noreply@blogger.com